She shares the 3x3 152mm secondaries of Alsace, although 2 in front/1 in rear whereas Alsace is 1 in front/2 in rear. Thanks for sharing your experiences @poeticmotion. The problem with German BBs in high tiers is that with the campy meta, its hard to do consistently well since you really have to get in close to maximize their DPM. I'm getting probably 75% of my secondary damage in Alsace from fires. Members. Their defining feature has to be quadruple-gun turrets! Tier 5 is annoying. But Ialso dealt 42k damage from the fires those secondary hits set. Once I got my 18th capt point, I added IFHE and tripled my average pen damage while only cutting fire damage by about a third. Here's an example of what Republique's secondaries can do. She is a BEAST. Glimpse behind the scenes at the new battleship line! And from tier 7 up, I recommend a secondary build or hybrid secondary/survival build. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. Best Battleship: Richelieu (France) See Richelieu stats and more here. The ship carried twelve 305 mm main guns and powerful secondary guns. Sadly, not everyone has time and money for that. I originally stated I wasn't in a rush to get Republique if I even bothered with her at all. The majority of outgoing fire is your 100mm secondaries. Tier 6 is good. It's a bit too RNG-dependent to count on setting fires against BBs with your 100mm secondaries and they won't ever pen anything on a BB, but it's a nice bonus. I was doing some digging the other day and found out some interesting stuff about Battleship guns and their actual reload times. Speaking of the Richelieu, I agree about the gun arcs and secondaries for kiting. ), Thank you very much for taking the time to answer, poetic motion (and such a detailed reply too). Tier 7 is OP. I can also take Expert Marksman in addition to Adrenaline Rush, and since Republique has a 1x4 front/ 1x4 rear main gun layout compared to the 2x4 front / 1x4 rear layout of Alsace, EM is more valuable on Republique since switching sides takes 50% of my main gun firepower out of action until my turrets traverse as opposed to the 33% of Alsace. Well at least Nassau was built that way, and is the ship, the ship, the Kawachi is based on. 167. She may be workable for you; I admit four games is not enough to get a good feel for a ship. These battleships can deliver intense salvos on their unfortunate enemies! The addition of the fourth main gun turret allowed the ship to deliver a unique, 16-gun broadside salvo. V NORMANDIE. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. She's the only T5 BB that I can't make work. Note: I did not play tier 3 or 4 as i got Bretagne from mission. Whut? English (USA) Deutsch. She isn't very stealthy (although better than some BBs) but she has great speed to flex around the map, and she has low hp but if angled correctly can be very survivable. For players who like speed and ability to move around map, appreciate a ship that can brawl or mid-range fight with equal aplomb, and can maximize their armor angles and stay alive to kick [edited], this is a fantastic line. And aside from 25mm common plate, there is nothing the 127mm guns can pen with IFHE that she wouldn't otherwise be able to without it. The Nelson-class were the only Royal Navy battleships armed with 16-inch guns and... Jump to. I read another thread about it, and although costly, it might be worth it, especially for Alsace's two calibers of secondaries. I find getting citadel hits with the Lyon is pretty easy against both cruisers and BBs. I need to replay those games while we still have the current patch, look at the ribbons, and see exactly what happened to those shells when I'm NOT concentrating on fighting for my life. My experience so far in this ship is very limited and is entirely in co-op; I played her once (I think) just before I went on holiday and that was my first game after unlocking her, and then a few times after coming back from holiday and I'm so rusty my tactical performance is awful and I can no longer shoot straight. Also, firing sixteen guns downrange never ever ever ever gets old. Her guns are punchy af and very accurate, secondaries put out a lot of fire but suffer from her tier  (since manual control of secondaries skill is only 15% improvement at tier t5). Gameplay review of the French Battleship Lyon and a look at strategy for the map Fault Line in World of Warships Legends (WoWs Legends) available on PS4 and XBOX1. If you don't know how to effectively angle, learn or you're not going to enjoy them. I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. She's wicked fast, has 12 undersized but accurate main guns (dispersion gets wonky near max range but from 11-13 km in they're deadly), her secondaries will merrily light fires and add damage, and her secondaries have more 360-degree coverage than Richelieu. A battleship design created before the outbreak of World War I, representing an improvement on the previous Normandie class but carrying enhanced primary armament. Firing angles are bad, but even a blind potato can hit stuff with 16 guns. Shatters and overpens aplenty. Alsace? Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. She isn't very stealthy (although better than some BBs) but she has great speed to flex around the map, and she has low hp but if angled correctly can be very survivable. There’s one small problem though. She handles like a drunk pig; slow and waddling, and her turrets take all day to turn, but once again, this is not uncommon at tier 5. Had a game in her with 400 secondary hits earlier. poeticmotion, March 6, 2018 in French Battleships. By dropping IFHE, I can run Super AND BFT at the same time, giving me a 10% boost to my 2ndary firepower without losing Super. And they have good fire chance, but they don't pen anything except some parts of DDs. With most of her stats coming in fairly average, the part that makes Richelieu good is in how she’s played. Alsace has very fast-firing (about a 3-second reload) 100mm secondaries backing up 3x3 152mm secondaries that fire more slowly (approx. With Tier 5 I generally agree, though I'd like to get past my Orion and play the Iron Duke for a while to have another Tier 5 battleship against which to compare her (not that there is that much difference between the Orion and the Duke in the first place, but their matchmaking is different and that will alter perceptions). They don't matter anyway, it takes a few games to grind through a tier 3 or 4 and honestly, nothing can ever beat Orion. But If I remember right, in the first datamined stats, they did not feature Nassau’s guns, but Helgoland’s guns instead, seemling at first trying to make the Tier 3 for the Germans essentially a second Kawachi, making the tier 3 ships very similar, instead of giving each nation … A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". Tier 5: Bretagne is ok. Still has a high skill floor but I clicked with her very well and she's as much fun as Alsace.). On 4/14/2018 at 5:23 PM, HMCS_Moncton said: not normandie because that ship is a hot mess. I'm at T9 near to the T10 and yea, I'm enjoying the French, they are great with my aggressive play-style. 11.7k. I found Bretagne to be a dog. Normandie was a French battleship under construction before and during World War I. (Edit as of 4/3: I bought Republique about a week ago after trying her on test server and I was wrong. Wargaming has announced the first major update since their August release for World of Warships: Legends. I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. If completed, she would have been the first ship in the world to carry its main armament in Quadruple-gun turrets. I had 494 secondary hits in a game the other day and only 12k in direct damage from that. Curiously, this pun has yet to be considered awful enough to be reported. The best solution would be simply testing all the warships of each nation. This is not a suggestion thread BTW . I usually love fast BBs but her turret firing arcs were punitive and I couldn't seem to mitigate damage well enough to compensate for her low hp. I know that's a higher tier ship with better armour, but surely at that distance SOME of my stuff should be getting through? Sending sixteen 13-inch shells downrange is a hoot, I've nicknamed her 'the French Fowling Piece'. The construction of such turrets was driven by the desire to achieve maximum broadside firepower given the ship's limited size. Jump to content. Though speaking of tier X Battleships this build is particularly good for Yamato ( Imperial Japanese Navy ), Montana ( US Navy ), République and Bourgogne ( French Navy ), Thunderer ( Royal Navy ). (bold print added by me.). World of Warships is a free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer online game produced and published by Wargaming, following the earlier games World of Tanks and World of Warplanes.Players can battle others at random or play cooperative battle types against bots or an advanced player versus environment (PvE) battle mode. World of Warships Tier VIII Best Battleships. So for Alsace, IFHE is a no-brainer in a brawler build (and there are several viable builds for Alsace, but given my playstyle and the strengths of the ship, I strongly prefer a brawler build. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] ! This update adds the French Navy to the game. Alsace 100mm 2ndary pen with IFHE: can pen up to 21.66mm armor. I rushed to Alsace as I played her on test server and loved her, but I'm in no rush to get Republique. A flotilla of Italian Warships is headed to World of Warships: Legends in the new Veni, Vidi, Vici update. Welcome to the largest subreddit dedicated to the Naval Action game World of Warships: Legends! https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/soviet-battleships-review Appreciate it. Also, contrary to what I've seen people say. Tier 9: Alsace is the jewel of the line and my new favorite tier 9 BB. Broadside CAs, BBs, CVs, it does not matter. I had the frustration of smacking a Gascogne last night at almost zero range with four- to eight-gun broadsides and doing not all that much. They fire a bit slower than the 100mm guns (about 4.5 seconds, IIRC) but they are much stronger. IJN: Mikasa's 305 mm/40 41st Year Type: 1 round per minute or 60 sec reload* Kawachi's 305 mm/45 41st Year Type: 2 rounds per minute or 30 sec reload Ishizuchi's 305 mm/45 Mk10: ~1.5 rounds per … After launching in August and leaving early access, World of Warships: Legends is set to get its first update today, September 16, 2019. The 127mm guns have roughly the same pen without IFHE, 21.16mm armor, as the Alsace 100mm with IFHE. So you'll set lots of fires, but you won't do direct damage with them. Oh, I should mention, French BBs are the most romantic ships, while the French CAs try to play hard to get, the BBs like to get up close and sneak in a kiss (ram), although you may get in trouble for kissing those underage Anime ships, you have to do it, For FRANCE!!!! And don’t neglect those pesky DDs or smoking cruisers. Her sides were reinforced with vast armored areas. They are very fast for their size, and from Tier VIII onward they get access to the Engine Boost () consumable, further addin… She's a keeper for me, which says a lot since two of my favorite BBs are in tier 7 already (KGV and Gneisenau) and I almost never keep three ships in a tier of the same class except for DDs. Might not be what you were aiming at but you’ll hit it ? Look at the armor model. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… Her disadvantages included weak torpedo protection. )Republique: Republique's secondary layout is a bit different. This is with a 16-point captain, so before I had BFT, but with manual secondaries, adrenaline rush, and AFT. I rushed to Alsace as I played her on test server and loved her, but I'm in no rush to get Republique. Also, contrary to what I've seen people say, no ffs they're not HE spammers like British BBs were; use AP most of the time like your IJN, USN, and German BBs. Its really off putting going from pretty standard AP, to fast super high pen AP that overpens everything, but once I got used to it I was consistently getting high damage, but still frustrating to play for me because I hate seeing overpen broadsides at all distances, and sub 10k broadside BBs, but still, was doing very well and I went from hating it to loving it very quickly. Very mobile. Alsace 100mm 2ndary pen without IFHE: can pen up to 16.66mm armor. The Republic is going to bring the quark back, but I can imagine once you work with the quark, she will work with you, with the 127mm secondaries or higher it can do more than just fires, and with 430mm guns can overmatch 27mm armor, and with the games I played with her in the Space Battles, I don't seem to get nearly as many overpens on broadsides. But if you can stay angled you'll shrug off a lot of potential damage despite her low HP and her guns will decimate same-tier BBs or any cruiser. However, even with her the secondaries don’t do much damage. In the beginning phase of the game it is hard to decide which warship types to develop. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… In 2 minutes: WITHOUT IFHE:  BB targets survived with around 27k-32k HP remaining. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. Cruiser players will love them; they play like oversized cruisers. These ships were developed directly from the ships of the preceding class but carried 340 mm guns arranged under a more rational scheme. So even in those games where no one on your team will push and you can't get away with closing in to knife range, you're still able to deal significant damage. LOL  The hull upgrade will further enhance the AA rating too. The ship was equipped with 380 mm guns, had a high speed, strong armor and very good torpedo protection. A high-speed battlecruiser designed to counter German heavy cruisers. I don't have the hull upgrade yet (do have firing range & speed) as I'm being tight with my 120 million credits and 408,000 free XP. Awesome! All of the French BBs seem to have wonky dispersion and shell hits are unpredictable. Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. She's a bit too squishy for clan battles and such; she's not built to take focus fire even though she's tougher than you'd expect when angled well. Filter by flair. Evne though I'm stronger in Republique than any other t10 BB, I'd still reach for GK, Monty, or Conqueror before Republique for clan battles. The biggest bump was getting used to the Richelieu's guns. She looks potentially fun but has a very high skill floor and will likely require a very good player with the right playstyle to consistently do well in her. She combines the mid-range accuracy of USN BBs (although with lower alpha strike potential due to small guns) with the secondary-range devastation of a Kurfurst or Friedrich. Not only do you give up a bit of fire chance, but it takes up 4 skill points you can use elsewhere. But, the only benefit of IFHE is the ability to pen armor thicker than you would otherwise be able to. Also, while I did consult numbers and stats, my reviews are primarily based on the feel of the ship and my performance in her. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. I run the secondary upgrade in the 500k credit upgrade slot, but for the 3-million credit upgrade slot I use the upgrade for main gun reload speed, as I find it gives me more value overall to shave time off my main gun reload as I use those all game whereas I am not *always* in secondary range (although I try to be, because brawler Alsace is best Alsace. Republique is ridiculously fun, and for some reason I do better with her than any other tier 10 ship I own even after 60 games to get past the 'low sample size' bump. There are two different answers to this question. But omg she's op in random battles. Being T9 you face less things you can overpen, having 4 more guns allow for more hits, armor is about the same to me, so still good, and there are secondaries that can hit all around the ship. The new campaign for the update features a battleship to bolster the Italian nation as well, the elegant Roma. She's absolutely amazing. I was wrong. Alternatively, you could take BFT as an alternative to Super and that may even be superior if you don't often survive long enough for the extra heal, but I *hate* dying late game when that extra heal could have saved me. The French Battleships available in early access are both sleek and powerful. I'll write up a full review at some point but she's an incredibly good ship for a player who plays aggressively and can aim well. She can get wrecked by any BB she’ll meet from the stern. She's very quirky and she wont' work well for spray-and-pray players, but her secondaries and her very powerful and fast-loading main guns make her awesome. III Courbet. These ships were developed directly from the ships of the preceding class but carried 340 mm guns arranged under a more rational scheme. AFT is nice though in terms of boosting AA as well. Tier 6's observations are interesting. Tier 8: Richelieu is VERY fun, but quirky. Her main turrets were placed in the fore end thus making any aft firing scenarios impossible. WITH IFHE:  All BB targets were destroyed within 2 minutes. So, not going to do 'full reviews' like I did of the British BBs because lazy, but having played up through Alsace, here'smy quick impressions of the French BB line so far: Standard review disclaimer by me: I am an average to a bit above average player who plays mostly solo, so this is from that perspective. The speed, agility, and ability to flank and catch the enemy team in a cross fire cannot be understated. Why? Tier 6: Normandie was garbage for me, the only ship I disliked. It probably doubled my overall secondary damage. Sections of this page ... Jean Bart, a tier VII French Premium battleship. But her 152mm secondaries also fire much faster, approx. Please Login or Register. I am also trying too hard to erase destroyers and other fast, hard-to-hit threats, and that means my barrels are often unloaded when I should have them ready for bigger, slower ships. Alsace is easily my favorite, with Richelieu second. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] The Alsace is just a better Richelieu but with less of the quark. :). Someone said something like “quantity has a quality all its own.”  Plus Tier 7 is the sweet spot in current matchmaking. Developer Diaries describe World of Warships game design in detail and it is all about our passion. But the Normandie is awful at setting fires, too. But once you get there, wheeee! @HazeGrayUnderway did some systematic testing in a training room for some less anecdotal data, shown in quote below: In training room tests, I've timed my Alsace Secondaries to fire for 2 minutes each on FDG, Alsace, Missouri, Izumo, Lion targets. With my 19-point Alsace Captain, I run PT, PM, Adrenaline Rush, Super (extra heal and speed boost), AFT, Manual Secondaries, IFHE. Tier 7-9 are the good part of this line. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. Alsace can brawl like a champ (although you're not as tanky as Germans and have to be VERY mindful of your angles, and you want to stay a bit farther back, closer to the edge of your secondary range), but she feels like she is much more accurate at longer ranges with her main battery than Germans. i am only at richelieu and find the gun to be quite accurate. The Tier VI Lyon even carries four quadruple turrets for a … Taking IFHE on Alsace increases your 2ndary damage, making that opportunity cost worth it, but on Republique it doesn't. French Cruisers will be available as well as French Battleships, though the latter is … 0: 0: No posts have been made on this board. As such, kiting in this ship is a blast, especially since her turrets do have such strong firing arcs to the rear despite being concentrated in bow. Lyon is hysterical. PSA/Information Created Sep 12, 2018. I free-XPed out of her after four games, which is very rare for me. This was a match where I ended up only engaging BBs (which is unusual for me), but still got 35k direct damage plus 55k fire damage from my secondaries. This is of course a limited sample size, and is affected by my playstyle (which is generally fairly aggressive leading to occasional overreaches and a low survival rate.) I'm honestly expecting a nerf to her; Alsace makes me look like a much better BB player than I am. 7 second reload. Frankly, Republique doesn't see enough ships with enough 25mm plating to make the opportunity cost of IFHE worth it. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. Français. I play her as a lancer; move in at an angle, then time a turn when you have opportunity to minimize citadel exposure and pull back out, firing over shoulder while letting your 10+ km secondaries get in on the action. One of the most successful and well-balanced "new generation" battleships in the world. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. I prefer main gun accuracy over secondary range, especially with these inconsistent French BBs. Part of that was garbage teams and I got frustrated. Thats ridiculously low for 494 hits. You're right. Below you will find a short description of all warship types. My 19-point Republique captain build: PT, Expert Marksman, Adrenaline Rush, Super, BFT, AFT, Manual Secondaries. With low hp and good armor, angling is key with these ships. Share your naval adventures with friends and turn the tide! One regards the grind to the top tier battleship, and the other answer is in regard to the ship that is most competitively viable In terms of grinding, the French line would be the easiest. From tier 6 up, and especially from tiers 8-10, the speed allows you to reposition quickly and flex where needed. A question:  Do you use IFHE on your Alsace & République? Why this ship owns this tier: France takes tier VIII with the Richelieu. With a secondary build she is the best ship I've seen at kiting; her secondaries are mounted in back and her firing arcs are very wide for good "over the shoulder" shots. She looks potentially fun but has a very high skill floor and will likely require a very good player with the right playstyle to consistently do well in her. Good writeup and I agree with everything you said thus far. By 11 sec reload). 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